These are great! They are a little bigger than the average 4 (I usually wear a 6 but some 4s) but these fit great (not too tight on athletic/muscular thighs) and stay up at the waist all day. They wash up well and are long enough (I am 5\'6 ). I now have 5 pairs and they are great for work (business casual).

Really comfy and true to size!

Like these alot. Waist is not too high, the back pockets are real (not those pointless 1 inch deep ones) and the material sheds the animal hairs nicely.

Great pants! Good quality!

Great pants. Will buy again